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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
 
Meeting No. 86
 
Wednesday, October 31, 2012
 

The Standing Committee on Finance met in a televised session at 3:49 p.m. this day, in Room 253-D, Centre Block, the Chair, James Rajotte, presiding.

 

Members of the Committee present: Mark Adler, Hon. Scott Brison, Guy Caron, Shelly Glover, Randy Hoback, Brian Jean, Hoang Mai, Cathy McLeod, Peggy Nash, James Rajotte and Dave Van Kesteren.

 

Acting Members present: Robert Chisholm for Wayne Marston.

 

In attendance: Library of Parliament: Mark Mahabir, Analyst. House of Commons: Michelle Tittley, Procedural Clerk.

 

Witnesses: Department of Finance: Ted Cook, Senior Legislative Chief, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch; Shawn Porter, Director, Tax Legislation; Ian Pomroy, Senior Tax Policy Officer, Social Tax Policy, Personal Income Tax Division; Annie Carrier, Principal Manager, Aboriginal Tax Policy Section; Geoff Trueman, Director, Business Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch; Pierre Mercille, Senior Legislative Chief, Sales Tax Division, GST Legislation, Tax Policy Branch; Kei Moray, Director, Intergovernmental Tax Policy, Evaluation and Research Division, Tax Policy Branch; Jane Pearse, Director, Financial Institutions Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch; Deanne Field, Chief, Federal-Provincial Taxation Section, Tax Policy Branch. Department of Industry: Catherine Foskett, Director, Strategic Issues, Tourism Branch; Prue Thomson, Senior Policy Analyst, Internal Trade. Department of Human Resources and Skills Development: Marianna Giordano, Director, CPP Policy and Legislation; Cassandra Iwankow, Director, Policy; Dominique LaSalle, Director General, Seniors and Pensions Policy Secretariat; Pierre Meunier, Manager, Policy.

 
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.
 

Shelly Glover moved, — That, in relation to the Order of Reference of Tuesday, October 30, 2012, respecting Bill C-45, A second Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 29, 2012 and other measures,

(a) the Chair of the Standing Committee write, as promptly as possible, to the Chairs of the following Standing Committees inviting those Standing Committees to consider the subject-matter of the following provisions of the said Bill:

(i) the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development, clauses 206 to 209,

(ii) the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food, clauses 351 to 410,

(iii) the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration, clauses 308 to 314,

(iv) the Standing Committee on the Environment and Sustainable Development, clauses 425 to 432,

(v) the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans, clauses 173 to 178,

(vi) the Standing Committee on Health, clauses 269 to 298,

(vii) the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities, clauses 219 to 232,

(viii) the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, clauses 210 to 218,

(ix) the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security, clauses 264 to 268, and

(x) the Standing Committee on Transport, Infrastructure and Communities, clauses 156 to 165, 179 to 184, 316 to 350 and 411 to 424, and schedules 1 and 2;

(b) each of the Standing Committees, listed in paragraph (a), be requested to convey recommendations, including any suggested amendments, in both official languages, in relation to the provisions considered by them, in a letter to the Chair of the Standing Committee on Finance, in both official languages not later than 5 p.m. on Tuesday, November 20, 2012;

(c) any amendments suggested by the other Standing Committees, in the recommendations conveyed pursuant to paragraph (b), shall be deemed to be proposed during the clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-45, provided that the recommendations are received prior to the relevant clauses being considered, and further provided that the members of the Standing Committee on Finance may propose amendments notwithstanding the recommendations received from the other Standing Committees;

(d) the Committee shall proceed to clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-45 no later than Wednesday, November 21, 2012, provided that the Chair may limit debate on each clause to a maximum of five minutes per party per clause before the clause is brought to a vote;

(e) amendments to Bill C-45, other than the amendments deemed to be proposed pursuant to paragraph (c), be submitted to the Clerk of the Committee 48 hours prior to clause-by-clause consideration and distributed to members in both official languages; and

(f) if the Committee has not completed the clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-45 by 11:59 p.m. on Wednesday, November 21, 2012, the Chair shall put, forthwith and successively, without further debate or amendment, each and every question necessary to dispose of clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill, to report the Bill to the House, and to order the Chair to report the Bill to the House on or before Thursday, November 22, 2012.

Debate arose thereon.

 

It was agreed, — That consideration of the motion be postponed until 5:00 p.m..

 
Pursuant to the Order of Reference of Tuesday, October 30, 2012, the Committee commenced consideration of Bill C-45, A second Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 29, 2012 and other measures.
 

Ted Cook made statements and, with Geoff Trueman, answered questions.

 
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.
 

Debate resumed on the motion of Shelly Glover.

 

Guy Caron moved, — That clauses (d), (e) and (f) of the motion be referred to the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure for consideration during its meeting scheduled on Wednesday, November 1, 2012.

 

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Guy Caron and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 6.

 

Peggy Nash moved, — That the motion be amended, by replacing at the end of clause (iv) “clauses 425 to 432” with the words “clauses 316 to 350 and 425 to 432”.

 

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Peggy Nash and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 6.

 

Scott Brison moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing at the end of clause (i) “clauses 206 to 209” with the words “clauses 175 and 206 to 209”; by replacing at the end of clause (vii) “clauses 219 to 232” with the words “clauses 193 to 205, 219 to 232, 234 to 263, 307, 315 and 433 to 463”; by adding after clause (x) “(xi) the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology, clauses 9, 27 to 28, 62 to 64, and 299 to 306”; by adding after the newly proposed clause (xi) “(xii) the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates, clauses 464 to 514”.

 

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Scott Brison and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 6.

 

Hoang Mai moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing in clause (f) “Wednesday, November 21, 2012” with the words “Thursday, November 29, 2012” and by replacing ”Thursday, November 22, 2012” with the words “Friday, November 30, 2012”.

 

The question was put on the amendment of Hoang Mai and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 6.

 

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 9; NAYS: 1.

 

At 5:27 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

 



Suzie Cadieux, Jean-François Lafleur
Clerks of the Committee

 
 
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